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Guess The Troll

One of our AA trolls made the following two quotes, each one on a separate forum. It made me chuckle seeing both of these next to each other.

So…which troll?

“…Sponsoring was a very difficult process for me. Staying out of the way.
The only genuine unconditional prayer I could think of to say for others when I first began coming around was, “Gods Will Not Ours Be Done”. But then I would have to assume I knew Gods Will for everyone. I don’t.
Today, I don’t pray much for others, I try at times but then I can see this is between God and them. I just pray for his guidance for me. This seems to be enough to help me get back on the path.”

And:

“I don’t know if God does any of this because I am a Atheist.”

Dingbattery


A Life Gone Awry: My Story of the Elan School, is now available on Amazon. I have not read the whole book, but I have skimmed over the parts that reference one of our resident trolls, Danny Bennison (aka; Diablo/Cuggle/Quagmire/Claude). Currently, he’s cyber-stalking some of our readers, and is taking up residence with two other AA stooges and ST trolls, Mondotuna and A.A. Alfie, over at the JREF forum. They’re just like the Three Amigos, if the Three Amigos suffered from delusion and sociopathy.

This must be a proud moment in Danny’s career. It’s one thing to gain recognition as an assclown on internet blogs and forums, but quite another to have a book written about him, chronicling his real-life victimization of vulnerable teenagers. Congratulations, Danny!

 

Guess The Troll

OK, kiddos. It’s time to put those brain cells you’ve managed to retain to use. Yesterday, we received a comment that got caught in our troll trap, under the name “Banjomansband.” Rather than let it sluice through, we thought it would be fun to make a contest of it, in a “Guess the Troll” contest. [Hint: It’s someone we know and lub.]

It’s not enough to just guess the name. Please show your work. Entrants are judged by use of logic, wit and deliciousness; with bonus points awarded to whoever can explain to us the actual point this guy is trying to make:

“We have check the link out MA and find it ridiculous. Why you would want to print such rubbish is beyond us.
Yes it is several people having a say here. A couple of us post on JREF’s this is where we first heard of you. You post under a another name, why, are you hiding something.
Seems you keep pulling this disgusting stunt every time he posts on a site you or ftg posted on.
It seems he doesn’t like you and what you stand for so he takes the fight to you directly, what a concept. You folks do it here everyday. You jump into blogs, sites, newspapers ect…pull out what you want and post it here including people faces. You did this with Alfie, right. So when it is done to you, you fight back dirty.
Now your after Alfie to look at this link, well we suggest he does, please get it over with. Anything to stop you from soapboxing this link.
We don’t know this guy really and probably won’t but it seems low down that you would pull this shit and call yourselves respectable.
Grow Up!”

Good Luck!

St Jude Retreats Is Not Narconon.

In March of 2002, as I sat in my room having a thrilling conversation with my friend Bobby (a fellow guest at the St Jude Retreat House) about the horrors he was subjected to at a Narconon treatment center he had previously attended, it never occurred to me that I would find myself embroiled in a debate nearly a decade later about whether the two organizations were somehow connected.  The reason for this is simple, nothing we were doing at St Jude’s even remotely resembled Bobby’s description of his experiences at Narconon.

Furthermore, I know for a fact that there is absolutely no connection between St Jude’s and Narconon, nor do they use any process which even resembles the purification rundown or biophysical rehab processes that Narconon and affiliated programs are famous for.  There is no connection.  I know this as a former client, employee, and personal friend of the founders and management of St Jude’s & BRI for nearly a decade.  (I hope you read the rest of my story, but if you wanna jump right to St Jude’s side of the story use this link: http://www.saint-jude-retreats-is-not-narconon.com/)

Yet, here I am, in the middle of a ridiculous debate.  It’s ridiculous because I’m fighting against baseless assertions and innuendo, and I’ve somehow gotten into the position of trying to prove a negative – when in reality, the ones spreading the rumors should bear the burden of proof.  However, the rumors have caused a dire situation, which is why I jumped in. Continue reading St Jude Retreats Is Not Narconon.

JD’s Other Gig

JD, aka "Mondotuna"

“The more immediate question is what is it about the faux Narconon program that is so attractive to ftg and MA that they provide an easy link for people to connect with The Coach? If people are paying $2500 for every 8 phone calls to an untrained spin-dry Graduate there is certainly enough money floating around to explain it, but might they like to promote it for other reasons? I mean the harping about the 2yr degreed and licensed addiction crowd is a constant, and the opinions about how untrained AA sponsors are and how they have no right to help people for free are ceaseless…so how could The Coach make perfect sense to them to actively promote? Giving people in trouble an easy path to Stevie doesn’t meet any logical standard at all for them that I can envision, and is a true mystery.”

JD wrote this in our comment section today. He makes a good point. We like Steven, and we think he has a lot of good things to say. But we don’t want to look as though we are promoting one brand of recovery over another. So, in the interest of fairness, we thought that we would direct everyone to a Lifering forum, moderated by our very own JD, aka “Mondotuna.” He’s a man of many hats. Not only does he troll here, but he hosts a “plan B” forum, too!

Those interested in a recovery forum should go there and say “hello.” There’s no sense in keeping JD’s wisdom to ourselves. Perhaps you can share with them, the words of wisdom JD has given us here: Lifering Recovery Forum. Make sure you tell them how you found the site!

UPDATED by ftg to add:

I’d like to edit this post to reflect the real story here, which is that JD was using his position as a moderator at LifeRing to gather information about people who know and trust him as “mondotuna”. JD quoted and revealed painful information about people in order to mock them, while not revealing how he was privy to this information. Not only that, but he constantly disparaged LifeRing as among the “Plan B” programs that don’t work. In fact, he challenged us to go to LifeRing and see if we can find people who’ve been successful there. He talked about how fun it was to watch people continually relapse.

All this stuff is unpacked and linked to in the comments, so make sure to read them through.

I’ve been looking at the LifeRing messageboard, and JD’s farewell comment, where he admits to betraying himself and the people who trust him. He admits to even saying things he doesn’t believe in order to disrupt people he disagrees with. (But we’re the one’s with the delicate fee fees and are out for blood. We’re the violators of privacy. Right.) It seems that some of the responders to that post aren’t grasping the depth of JD’s betrayal, and are under the impression that we have attacked LifeRing. We don’t have anything against LifeRing. It’s on our blogroll. In fact, in our comments a few weeks ago, you’ll find JD preemptively ridiculing someone in the event that she decides to go to LifeRing after leaving AA.

I also want to make it clear that we’re not exposing JD as a private person. Please keep pictures of him or any personally identifiable information or private details off the Stinkin’ Thinkin’. He feels that his privacy was violated, which is asinine — especially considering the liberties he has taken with people who trust him. We didn’t violate his privacy, we exposed “mondotuna” as “JD” — and we’re not going to be complicit in his betayal of his station at LifeRing while he uses it to undermine both us and LR. The display of entitlement is mindboggling.

However, I see the JD still has that “hammer” next to his name. I’ll add the LifeRing link back to the blogroll once it’s gone.

[Just to be sure there is no misunderstanding: We are saying that JD/mondotuna/cabledude used information that he learned about people on another forum, not that he misused confidential information that only he had access to (which is something we couldn’t possibly know). All the information we’re talking about is public, of course, but people who post on support boards can reasonably expect to be treated with sensitivity by the moderator — and that is surely the intent of the forum’s owners who created the space and put JD in that leadership position. Members should be able to expect that, of all people, the moderator will not follow them to other communities and use what he learned on the board  against them, while hiding behind a different identity.]