Posts tagged lifering

The Jim B. Episode, Revised and Expanded

If you’ve been a regular, you’ll notice that I took down the last two posts on the subject of Jim Bock and the Sponsorship Group in Chatham, NJ. I want to be clear that the episode detailed in those posts did not drive us to close the blog, so I’m going to tell the story again with more clarity.

Now then:

There is someone leaving comments on forums around the internet about someone named Jim Bock who runs the Sponsorship Group in Chatham, New Jersey. They’re hit-n-run cut/paste comments that look like this:

One of the all time most pathetic and dangerous AA groups ever is based out of Chatham NJ. They are called the Sponsorship Group and their leader is Jim B.

Dictator Jim B. and his disciples have been ruining the lives of young women since at least 2000. To call what they do “13th Stepping” would be a compliment. Imagine a group of people with no medical or psyciatric training that tell people how and why they need to stop taking necessary medication! It’s a disgrace. People have suffered and in some cases are dead as a direct result of this groups actions!

Jim B. and his disciples at the Sponsorship Group all have SG tatoo on their wrists and live by the rules of Jim B. He takes advatage of people who are in need of help. He should be charged with mental abuse and should have to register as a sex offender. He will experience KARMA soon.

A few of these comments appeared here (using the full last name), buried in the discussion section of random posts, and they were not on my radar.

So, last week, I received an email from Jim Bock that looked like this:  Continue reading The Jim B. Episode, Revised and Expanded

The Mondotuna-LifeRing Armageddon Guessing Contest

“I planned a good laugh in Nov about ST referring people to the non-AA forum I help out with, but doing it this early was a decision I was not involved in, and I take offense with those who took it on themselves to violate my privacy to this degree. That’s not something you or I or I believe most people would do.”

JD (also Mondotuna, Jerry, Cabledude, Mr Guestperson,  farquar the quail); in a response to us outing him as a double secret agent.

 

There’s a coming apocalypse over at LifeRing, at least according to our favorite cyber lunatic, JD – who channelled his inner Harold Camping and informed us that something big was happening there this November. He was really disappointed that we prevented him from being able to laugh about it all from the inside, but I’m sure he was able to supplant what we took from him with other things that give him the jollies. You know…taking candy from babies and pulling the legs off of frogs and such.

Still, we’re left to wonder exactly when this will happen. And what exactly will be the cause of their demise? Will it be a natural occurrence, or will Mondotuna himself help to bring them down? I have no idea. I’ve got two balls, and neither one of them are crystal. I’ll leave the predicting up to our soothsaying cyber stalker, and the guesses up to you people. Let’s have a contest!

On what date will the LifeRing rapture happen, and how?

The one who predicts closest will win my undying admiration, and get to pick my next set of lottery numbers.

Good Luck!

You Can Tune a Piano, But You Can’t Mondotune Him Out

Guess who crawled out of his troll hole! Yep. Just when you think you’re rid of him, he’s back, and he’s going viral. Like a scorching case of herpes. Be careful if you’re linked in any way to this blog. He’s in stalking mode. This is a fairly innocuous and ridiculous comment he made the other day at Scientific American. If you see him around, make sure you tell him “howdy.”:

“Bankole comes out of the woodwork when celebrities get into trouble behind their drinking.

Because he’s paid by pharma companies to develop meds for alcoholism you can expect he’d pump that approach at every opportunity.

I imagine if he ever finds one that works it’s likely that he’ll go ahead and say something about it. In the meantime all he can give is generalities that meds are a great way to go for alcoholism.

The next time the interviewing reporter hears that meds work really well and are evidence based treatment, perhaps the reporter will ask to be shown the evidence that these meds are working as well as BJ and his pharma buddies want us to believe.

Next time, maybe.”

JD, Cabledude, Mondotuna, Jerry, Mr Guestperson. An AA and troll. Commenting in Scientific American.

 

Alcoholics Anonymous and the Counseling Profession: Philosophies in Conflict

I was listening to Mike and Blame this morning on Massiveattack’s radio program, and Blame referenced this, originally posted in Journal of Counseling & Development. It’s an interesting read:

Alcoholics Anonymous and the Counseling Profession: Philosophies in Conflict

“Although AA believes in a medical cause for alcoholism, their treatment program is a nonmedical one that includes both social and emotional elements. At the core of AA’s treatment program lie the 12 steps. These steps were originally adapted from a Christian organization, the Oxford Group. The group emphasized changing one’s life and removing sin by passing through five stages known as the five procedures. These stages involved giving in to God, listening to God’s direction, checking for guidance, achieving restitution, and sharing (Kurtz, 1988). Continue reading Alcoholics Anonymous and the Counseling Profession: Philosophies in Conflict

Quotes of the Day

“…have no respect for those who make a living out of taking newcomers through our steps at a price…may all of their cancers arrive soon and be especially virulent. hope [sic] wherever Mark is now, he is spending newcomer’s money wisely.”

Cabledude/JD/Mondotuna. An AA and troll at this blog, host of the now private “Recovery First” delphi forum; member of AA Mollys UK forum. Commenting here on the death of Mark Houston, who ran a treatment centre and died last year of cancer.

“We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows.”

– The sixth promise of Alcoholics Anonymous

“My Name is Kyle, and I’m an Alcoholic…Oh, and I also Burn Down Buildings.”

An AA near Chicago has talked his judge into allowing him to attend his AA meetings while he is out on bond awaiting trial. It just makes sense that since his character flaws include burglary and setting buildings on fire, he should be focusing in on dialing down his drinking:

Libertyville man charged in arsons may attend Alcoholics Anonymous Meetings

“Kowal is accused of setting four fires and burglarizing the Picnic Basket Restaurant on Milwaukee Avenue during the morning of March 24.

No one was injured in the fires, which broke out separately in residences in the 200 block of Homewood Drive at about 3 a.m. and then about an hour later in the 200 block of West Cook Street, fire officials have said. Both of those homes sustained significant damage, authorities have said.

The third and fourth fires occurred sometime during the overnight hours in two unsecured garages in the 200 block of Homewood Drive and the 300 block of Laurel Avenue, causing minor damage to those properties, authorities have said.

Drobinski alleged that Kowal has admitted in handwritten confessions to setting the fires. Residents, including children, were asleep in all of the homes at the times the fires occurred, he said.”

I’m guessing his drink of choice was the “Flaming Moe.”

JD’s Other Gig

JD, aka "Mondotuna"

“The more immediate question is what is it about the faux Narconon program that is so attractive to ftg and MA that they provide an easy link for people to connect with The Coach? If people are paying $2500 for every 8 phone calls to an untrained spin-dry Graduate there is certainly enough money floating around to explain it, but might they like to promote it for other reasons? I mean the harping about the 2yr degreed and licensed addiction crowd is a constant, and the opinions about how untrained AA sponsors are and how they have no right to help people for free are ceaseless…so how could The Coach make perfect sense to them to actively promote? Giving people in trouble an easy path to Stevie doesn’t meet any logical standard at all for them that I can envision, and is a true mystery.”

JD wrote this in our comment section today. He makes a good point. We like Steven, and we think he has a lot of good things to say. But we don’t want to look as though we are promoting one brand of recovery over another. So, in the interest of fairness, we thought that we would direct everyone to a Lifering forum, moderated by our very own JD, aka “Mondotuna.” He’s a man of many hats. Not only does he troll here, but he hosts a “plan B” forum, too!

Those interested in a recovery forum should go there and say “hello.” There’s no sense in keeping JD’s wisdom to ourselves. Perhaps you can share with them, the words of wisdom JD has given us here: Lifering Recovery Forum. Make sure you tell them how you found the site!

UPDATED by ftg to add:

I’d like to edit this post to reflect the real story here, which is that JD was using his position as a moderator at LifeRing to gather information about people who know and trust him as “mondotuna”. JD quoted and revealed painful information about people in order to mock them, while not revealing how he was privy to this information. Not only that, but he constantly disparaged LifeRing as among the “Plan B” programs that don’t work. In fact, he challenged us to go to LifeRing and see if we can find people who’ve been successful there. He talked about how fun it was to watch people continually relapse.

All this stuff is unpacked and linked to in the comments, so make sure to read them through.

I’ve been looking at the LifeRing messageboard, and JD’s farewell comment, where he admits to betraying himself and the people who trust him. He admits to even saying things he doesn’t believe in order to disrupt people he disagrees with. (But we’re the one’s with the delicate fee fees and are out for blood. We’re the violators of privacy. Right.) It seems that some of the responders to that post aren’t grasping the depth of JD’s betrayal, and are under the impression that we have attacked LifeRing. We don’t have anything against LifeRing. It’s on our blogroll. In fact, in our comments a few weeks ago, you’ll find JD preemptively ridiculing someone in the event that she decides to go to LifeRing after leaving AA.

I also want to make it clear that we’re not exposing JD as a private person. Please keep pictures of him or any personally identifiable information or private details off the Stinkin’ Thinkin’. He feels that his privacy was violated, which is asinine — especially considering the liberties he has taken with people who trust him. We didn’t violate his privacy, we exposed “mondotuna” as “JD” — and we’re not going to be complicit in his betayal of his station at LifeRing while he uses it to undermine both us and LR. The display of entitlement is mindboggling.

However, I see the JD still has that “hammer” next to his name. I’ll add the LifeRing link back to the blogroll once it’s gone.

[Just to be sure there is no misunderstanding: We are saying that JD/mondotuna/cabledude used information that he learned about people on another forum, not that he misused confidential information that only he had access to (which is something we couldn’t possibly know). All the information we’re talking about is public, of course, but people who post on support boards can reasonably expect to be treated with sensitivity by the moderator — and that is surely the intent of the forum’s owners who created the space and put JD in that leadership position. Members should be able to expect that, of all people, the moderator will not follow them to other communities and use what he learned on the board  against them, while hiding behind a different identity.]