Posts tagged JD

Quote of the Day

Richard Dreyfuss delivered the keynote address for the Oklahoma Outreach Foundation, where he offered up a some of the standard Sobriety Woo, but ended his speech with this grand heresy, which I dedicate to the new incarnation of JD:

Expressing a desire that his keynote would make the audience think, Dreyfuss encouraged recent graduates of Mission Academy to reach beyond sobriety.

“Remember, sobriety is a fabulous goal, but is it better to be a sober wife beater than a man who drinks occasionally and loves his family?” he said. “You have (graduated from) a sober high school, I commend you. I truly commend you. But as you grow up, you’ll find that what also counts is good acts and moral behavior and being kind and patient and being a loving parent and husband.”

You Can Tune a Piano, But You Can’t Mondotune Him Out

Guess who crawled out of his troll hole! Yep. Just when you think you’re rid of him, he’s back, and he’s going viral. Like a scorching case of herpes. Be careful if you’re linked in any way to this blog. He’s in stalking mode. This is a fairly innocuous and ridiculous comment he made the other day at Scientific American. If you see him around, make sure you tell him “howdy.”:

“Bankole comes out of the woodwork when celebrities get into trouble behind their drinking.

Because he’s paid by pharma companies to develop meds for alcoholism you can expect he’d pump that approach at every opportunity.

I imagine if he ever finds one that works it’s likely that he’ll go ahead and say something about it. In the meantime all he can give is generalities that meds are a great way to go for alcoholism.

The next time the interviewing reporter hears that meds work really well and are evidence based treatment, perhaps the reporter will ask to be shown the evidence that these meds are working as well as BJ and his pharma buddies want us to believe.

Next time, maybe.”

- JD, Cabledude, Mondotuna, Jerry, Mr Guestperson. An AA and troll. Commenting in Scientific American.

 

Quote of the Day

“[Addi]cts and alcoholics in recovery are some of the very best human beings i have ever met. i figure we may be God’s chosen people. after all, everyone has the bible but not everyone has the other big book which i truly believe was directly given to us by divine intervention so thanks, God!”

itsmylife,” an AA, commenting in the Daily Strength forum.

[Check out "tinygecko" in this same thread. She's a real sweetheart, and happens to be JD/Mondotuna's Eva Braun. No wonder those two hooked up.]

Quotes of the Day

“…have no respect for those who make a living out of taking newcomers through our steps at a price…may all of their cancers arrive soon and be especially virulent. hope [sic] wherever Mark is now, he is spending newcomer’s money wisely.”

- Cabledude/JD/Mondotuna. An AA and troll at this blog, host of the now private “Recovery First” delphi forum; member of AA Mollys UK forum. Commenting here on the death of Mark Houston, who ran a treatment centre and died last year of cancer.

“We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows.”

- The sixth promise of Alcoholics Anonymous

If At First You Don’t Succeed….

Here’s an uplifting story of Greg M., an AA in Louisiana who refuses to quit before the miracle:

Four arrests, minimum time: Driver in fatal crash has history of DWI charges

The suspect in a fatal Vermilion Parish crash last weekend has a lengthy criminal history that includes previous DWI charges stemming from incidents at a boat launch and an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, court records show.

Gregory Menard, 51, of Abbeville, has been arrested three times during the past 12 years on DWI charges, according to the Vermilion Parish Clerk of Court’s office. He also has been arrested or cited on 13 other occasions for various offenses.

Now, Menard is facing charges of fourth-offense DWI, vehicular homicide, vehicular negligent injuring and passing in a no-passing zone after an early Saturday morning wreck that resulted in the death of his brother, 55-year-old Kenneth Menard of Abbeville.

Keep coming back!

Quote of the Day

“…That a member here would pretend one thing in one place and something else in another indicates a lot about them, and how could you place your trust in anyone here when among all the braindead sheep is such a big bad wolf?”

Interesting to me the person has not stepped forward for these past days and given some lame excuse that you’d surely buy immediately, because it’s what you’d like to believe is so, and you couldn’t possibly be so entirely foolish as to put your trust in them as a fellow traveler…that’s not possible at all.”


- JD; aka “Mondotuna”; aka, “Jerry”; aka, “Cabledude”. An AA and troll on this blog, and apparently still a moderator at Lifering forum. Writing here in our comment section a few months ago.

JD’s Other Gig

JD, aka "Mondotuna"

“The more immediate question is what is it about the faux Narconon program that is so attractive to ftg and MA that they provide an easy link for people to connect with The Coach? If people are paying $2500 for every 8 phone calls to an untrained spin-dry Graduate there is certainly enough money floating around to explain it, but might they like to promote it for other reasons? I mean the harping about the 2yr degreed and licensed addiction crowd is a constant, and the opinions about how untrained AA sponsors are and how they have no right to help people for free are ceaseless…so how could The Coach make perfect sense to them to actively promote? Giving people in trouble an easy path to Stevie doesn’t meet any logical standard at all for them that I can envision, and is a true mystery.”

JD wrote this in our comment section today. He makes a good point. We like Steven, and we think he has a lot of good things to say. But we don’t want to look as though we are promoting one brand of recovery over another. So, in the interest of fairness, we thought that we would direct everyone to a Lifering forum, moderated by our very own JD, aka “Mondotuna.” He’s a man of many hats. Not only does he troll here, but he hosts a “plan B” forum, too!

Those interested in a recovery forum should go there and say “hello.” There’s no sense in keeping JD’s wisdom to ourselves. Perhaps you can share with them, the words of wisdom JD has given us here: Lifering Recovery Forum. Make sure you tell them how you found the site!

UPDATED by ftg to add:

I’d like to edit this post to reflect the real story here, which is that JD was using his position as a moderator at LifeRing to gather information about people who know and trust him as “mondotuna”. JD quoted and revealed painful information about people in order to mock them, while not revealing how he was privy to this information. Not only that, but he constantly disparaged LifeRing as among the “Plan B” programs that don’t work. In fact, he challenged us to go to LifeRing and see if we can find people who’ve been successful there. He talked about how fun it was to watch people continually relapse.

All this stuff is unpacked and linked to in the comments, so make sure to read them through.

I’ve been looking at the LifeRing messageboard, and JD’s farewell comment, where he admits to betraying himself and the people who trust him. He admits to even saying things he doesn’t believe in order to disrupt people he disagrees with. (But we’re the one’s with the delicate fee fees and are out for blood. We’re the violators of privacy. Right.) It seems that some of the responders to that post aren’t grasping the depth of JD’s betrayal, and are under the impression that we have attacked LifeRing. We don’t have anything against LifeRing. It’s on our blogroll. In fact, in our comments a few weeks ago, you’ll find JD preemptively ridiculing someone in the event that she decides to go to LifeRing after leaving AA.

I also want to make it clear that we’re not exposing JD as a private person. Please keep pictures of him or any personally identifiable information or private details off the Stinkin’ Thinkin’. He feels that his privacy was violated, which is asinine — especially considering the liberties he has taken with people who trust him. We didn’t violate his privacy, we exposed “mondotuna” as “JD” — and we’re not going to be complicit in his betayal of his station at LifeRing while he uses it to undermine both us and LR. The display of entitlement is mindboggling.

However, I see the JD still has that “hammer” next to his name. I’ll add the LifeRing link back to the blogroll once it’s gone.

[Just to be sure there is no misunderstanding: We are saying that JD/mondotuna/cabledude used information that he learned about people on another forum, not that he misused confidential information that only he had access to (which is something we couldn't possibly know). All the information we're talking about is public, of course, but people who post on support boards can reasonably expect to be treated with sensitivity by the moderator -- and that is surely the intent of the forum's owners who created the space and put JD in that leadership position. Members should be able to expect that, of all people, the moderator will not follow them to other communities and use what he learned on the board  against them, while hiding behind a different identity.]

The Rotary Club Challenge

A common response we get from AAs after we highlight the daily rundown of felonies and abuse among them that happened to hit the newswires, is that that all organizations, in every walk of life, have bad apples. Today it was pointed out, after I updated the story about the AA who slashed the throat of a New York cabbie, that we are painting all AAs with the same brush. Of course, the actual reason we posted this was to point out the fact that an obviously deluded and emotionally unstable person, was subjected to 12-Step psychobabble instead of getting of real treatment.

Still, I understand the point that we may simply be picking out the few rapists, pedophiles and other types of felons; in an overwhelmingly serene and benign fellowship. So I thought that I would compare AA to another large fellowship and service organization: Rotary International. There are 1.3 million Rotary members, in 33,000 Rotary Clubs in the World, with a diverse membership representing people from all walks of life.

Today we are issuing the “Rotary Club challenge.” Do some research, and see how many pedophiles and rapists you find, who also happen to be members of the local Rotary Club. How many shootings and stabbings at Rotary meetings have been reported in the last five or ten years? How many of these people use the work they do for the local Rotary as an get-out-of-jail-free card? How many fellow Rotary members are showing up as character references at court hearings, saying such things as, “He has turned his life around, and is active in the local Rotary Club.” See if you can find two people who met at a Rotary Club, and took off on a stealing or killing spree. Compare these numbers against what we find daily in AA.

I would guess that if JD is right, and we are unfairly picking his club by highlighting the few bad seeds, then there would be a comparable amount in an organization the size of Rotary International. This should be an interesting experiment.