Posts tagged how to quit drinking

More on Michael Toole

[UPDATE: Toole gets 30 months in Club Fed. Maybe during his first strip search, someone will find more reasons why his drinking habit causes him to steal, lie and cheat. He does seem to pull these things directly out of his ass: Toole Gets Prison Time]


“With all due respect, the statement you made in the courtroom regarding Mike’s attendance at an AA meeting that, ‘it didn’t work’, was not only insensitive and bitingly sarcastic, but it was also a person affront to all those who battle addictions. If only it was that easy – that people receive counseling or attend an AA meeting or two and they are cured. But, we know, Judge Conaboy, that this is simply not true. As I noted before, there sadly is no cure for alcoholism and, therefore, sobriety is a lifelong struggle….”

– Sharon Palushock, MD


The above quote was written by Michael Toole’s sister-in-law, in a character reference letter to Richard Conaboy, the judge who will soon sentence Toole – a former judge himself, who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. She is scolding the good judge for making a comment on the efficacy of Toole’s treatment program, after he was caught stalking the key witness in his case; and arguing it was okay, because he happened to have done it on the way from an AA meeting. Continue reading More on Michael Toole

A little fun with an AA Crazy

Ben found this quote below from Rob B, an AA fundy and reader of our blog, over at “McGowdoghouse”, a blog set up for AAs to vent about this blog, and  how they don’t care about this blog. In my experience with the 12-step fanatics, they are often emotional bullies who only feel comfortable within the insular world of AA, where their lunacy and manipulation of others goes unquestioned. AA is a collecting ground and a carnival for these insecure and sociopathic types, as it gives them unfettered access to those seeking help, who happen to be in an emotionally fragile state. Gaslighting, passive aggressiveness, shutdown statements, implications that if they are not working the steps, then they will be drinking, works well on these people seeking help from their addictions. On the occasions where they venture outside of the AA boundaries, where normal rules of discourse apply; and techniques like passive aggressiveness, ad hominem attacks and shut down slogans don’t work – they are at a loss, and respond like an angry child on a playground. They cannot understand that the dogma and manipulation tactics that they thrive on in AA, do not work for those of us not under the spell.

Reasoning with them or discussing their crazy belief system rationally does not work, because they are so brainwashed and jaded by the AA religion, that they cannot see how far-out crazy they have become. It’s like reasoning with a person who has schizophrenia, and trying to convince them the voices they hear in their head is not real. It’s a pointless exercise in futility. Sometimes I find myself feeling sorry for them. Then I realize what they are doing to people, and that feeling quickly goes away.

With that in mind, I thought it would be a good time to mock Rob B, in the best way I know how: by using his own words to make himself look like an ass. I thought it would be fun to include this quote, along with some of the “12 promises” of AA, which I have included in bold brackets:

…I figure they are just bored, or the most bitter vile pseudo intellectual folks I’ve ever seen.

I have been mixing it up with our good friends at ST, shame on me. There is no winning with these people, they don’t play by their own rules and have nothing to offer anyone. I would do well to steer clear of them, they really don’t know what they are talking about.

If MA or SPeedy were on fire, I’d be hard pressed to piss on them. [We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows] now if they wanted to recover from alcoholism, I could and would offer them something.

Funny thing about that site is that some of our biggest critics can’t stay sober, hmmmm, get back to me when you’ve found something.

Patrick [Mcgowdog],

I’m beginning to see where some of your anger and intensity comes from, [We will comprehend a new serenity/We will know peace] to [sic] bad this wasn’t real life, we could go over and kick their ass LOL. [We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us] I hope they come over and cut and past this to suit their scripts. If any ST folks are reading this, I am kidding. If MA is reading this, with all the love I can muster go fuck yourself.

Spirituality as a Bait and Switch Technique

CNN posted an article on their site this week titled, “Are there dangers to being ’spiritual but not religious’?” I’m not going to comment on the entire article, as it is the same circle jerk of an examination into this statement that anyone who has been run through the world of AA logic has experienced. There are a couple of parts that made me chuckle, however. Like this:

“It’s a trendy phrase people often use to describe their belief that they don’t need organized religion to live a life of faith.

But for Jesuit priest James Martin, the phrase also hints at something else: egotism.

“Being spiritual but not religious can lead to complacency and self-centeredness,” says Martin, an editor at America, a national Catholic magazine based in New York City. “If it’s just you and God in your room, and a religious community makes no demands on you, why help the poor?”

I would love to see this priest speak out at an AA meeting. Their fucking heads would explode!

Then there is this quote from BJ Gallagher. Huffington Post contributor, and 12-step apologist extraordinaire:

“Twelve-step people have a brilliant spiritual community that avoids all the pitfalls of organized religion,” says Gallagher, author of “The Best Way Out is Always Through.”

“Each recovering addict has a ‘god of our own understanding,’ and there are no priests or intermediaries between you and your god. It’s a spiritual community that works.”

This is absolute garbage. The idea that the ’Big Book’ advocates a “god of our understanding” is as laughable as the idea that there are no intermediaries between an AA and his/her god. The AA god™ is specific, and is not a “god of our understanding”, but is “God as we understand Him”. The ‘Big Book’ is specific on this point, just as it is clear in the ‘We Agnostics’ chapter that any other god one chooses is simply a proxy to be used until the person reaches spiritual enlightenment, and comes to believe in the AA god™.

Of course, there will be people who continue to say that they are using pez dispensers or bridges as their god, but even the most deluded and brainwashed AA intuitively knows inanimate objects cannot restore sanity, remove shortcomings and answer prayers. That is almost as absurd as the belief that there is a god hovering over you, waiting for you to work those steps so He can relieve you of your drinking addiction. Still, when AAs pray their god, they are praying to a specific one who spends His time in the rooms, helping alcoholics with their problems, to the exclusion of the starving kids, genocide, homelessness, et al. – which are the domain of the regular church gods. AA god™ does one thing, and doesn’t do it particularly well. He intervenes in the lives of alcoholics.