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Stinkin’ Thinkin’ Over at the Sober Recovery Forum

What happens when there is dissension in the AA ranks? It depends on the platform. In real life, anyone questioning any part of the program will be derided. On an internet forum run by 12-steppers, they get censored. Even if it is not their AA section.

A few days ago, we were directed to a thread that was started at the Sober Recovery forum titled “The Concept of Powerlessness.” As is most often the case in these discussions about ‘Big Book’ scripture, it devolved into a circle-jerk of pseudo-intellectual mental contortion and philosophizing. I find it difficult to make it through more than three or four posts before my reading voice morphs into the “wah wah wah” of the teacher’s voice in Charlie Brown.

This time, I paid closer attention to the conversation, because a rare voice of trenchancy – “John Barleycorn” – jumped into the conversation. Knowing this was would go over like lead balloon, and knowing the AAs moderating the Sober Recovery forum would delete any challenge to the dogma quicker than one can say “rigorous honesty,” we took a screen shot. Click on the image below to enlarge:

It was followed up with this, which has yet to be deleted, but I’ll go ahead and include it here because I suspect it will be. It’s just makes too much sense:

One problem with using examples from internet forums is, AAs tend to couch their language more than they do one on one or within the confines of a group. What John Barleycorn is asking for is an alternative to tell a person who repeatedly fails. Something beyond a slogan. The answer, of course, is that the program cannot fail. It can only be failed. The onus, and the fault, is always on the individual. Always. It says it right there… in the ‘Big Book’.

It’s almost unfair to ask this of a group that is currently under the AA spell. They’ve been conditioned, and have no point of reference other than the insular world of AA. To a worm in a horseradish, the world is a horseradish.

UPDATE:

Jonny Quest, aka “John Barleycorn,” advised us SR deleted another post that would dare to criticize AA. Here it is:

Comment of the Day

Nukefreekiwi posted this in the neverending thread, but I thought that medhelp’s censoring his respectful presentation of research deserved front page status.

Hi there. I was recently sent a nasty letter from the moderators at http://www.medhelp.org/forums/Addiction-Substance-Abuse/show/77 for copying and pasting citations i obtained from the orange-papers. I have been a member of the forum for over 4 years and my anti 12 step rhetoric has been systematically tamed by over-zealous censors. Anyway here is thier letter…..

Dear hellc@mst,

Your recent post on “Looking for honest advice” was removed. Please understand that although you may not agree with 12 step programs that there are a lot of our members that have found sobriety through these methods. We appreciate your cooperation. If you continue to post without remaining neutral on 12 step programs we will have no other choice but to disable or suspend your account.

Here is the offending post. Continue reading Comment of the Day