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4 Reasons Why AA is Religious

4 Reasons Why AA is Religious and Not Spiritual

I’m not going to pretend that I don’t know the difference between religious and spiritual. I know what people mean when they make that distinction. By spiritual, they mean something like a deep, unmediated connection to the universe and a sense of their place in it. And by religious they mean a that this connection to the universe has been corrupted by human mediation and codification.

I’m also not making a judgment about whether or not spirituality is real or correct – if you’re religious (and object to AA on the grounds that it betrays your beliefs), you shouldn’t take offense to my definitions. I’m just saying that I know what people mean, I’m going use that universal understanding to say why AA is not spiritual, but religious.

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Question of the Day

Since when does “honesty” need a qualifier?

Over the past few years, I’ve come to understand the term rigorous honesty in a couple of ways:

1. It means accepting or expressing something you don’t believe or know isn’t true. For one obvious example, if you were honest, you’d say that believe that you are more powerful than anything else in the universe to make changes in your own life. If you were rigorously honest, you’d get over yourself and your “denial” and accept that you’re powerless.

2. It is also a linguistic self-gaslighting device, designed to make you pick yourself apart into infinitesimal pieces, questioning your motives, looking for the spiritually diseased, self-serving, eg0-gratifying motivation behind every action you take or consider taking.


Dear Abby: For some, a gift of alcohol could be devastating

DEAR ABBY: You advised “Susan in Southern Oregon,” who asked about the appropriateness of giving alcohol as a gift at an office party, that “the only time that alcohol would be an inappropriate gift is when the giver knows the recipient doesn’t use it.” As a former psychiatric social worker, I would say that the only time alcohol would be an APPROPRIATE gift is when the giver knows the recipient would use it, and do so responsibly.

People aren’t always forthcoming about their views and experiences regarding alcohol, so it’s best to play it safe. Many people abstain from alcohol because they are recovering alcoholics or have seen the devastating results that alcoholism has had on a loved one’s life. Others have religious reasons for not imbibing.

Giving alcohol as a gift may not only dismay the recipient, it could also lead to worse results if the giftee is someone who is struggling to stay sober.

– Amy in Dover, Del.

DEAR AMY: You have raised many valid points. Most of my readers disagreed with my answer, and their reasons have made me reconsider my advice to Susan. I was wrong. (Mea culpa.) Read on: Continue reading Choice

Chief Clarence Papequash Multitasks Wrong

From Yahoo News:

The chief of an east-central Saskatchewan First Nation said Tuesday he’s done nothing wrong and will not step down after he was one of 16 people charged with trafficking in prescription drugs.

“I feel good. I didn’t do nothing wrong,” Clarence Papequash, the recently re-elected chief of the Key First Nation near Kamsack, said in an interview.

A six-month investigation by RCMP detachments in and around the Yorkton area led to the arrest of 16 people. RCMP say more arrests are likely in the coming days. All are charged with trafficking in prescription narcotics.

Papequash, 58, said he does not have to resign as chief and intends to stay on. Another one of those charged, 52-year-old Gerald Papequash, was elected as a councillor in the same election.

All 16 will appear in court next month. Yorkton RCMP Sgt. James Morton said all are accused of selling the drugs to RCMP or agents working on their behalf.

Clarence Papequash denies ever selling drugs to RCMP or anyone else. “They didn’t buy nothing off of me,” he said.


Morton said RCMP decided to launch the investigation last year after seeing a huge increase in the trafficking of prescription and other drugs. Suicides, overdoses and violence in the Yorkton-Kamsack region have all been linked to increased drug use, he said. In one case a couple of years ago, a drug addict killed his baby daughter. His wife, also an addict, was in prison at the time, Morton said.

“I think (the arrests) are a start, but it’s so rampant. It’s unreal. I’ve never seen a drug problem this bad,” Morton said.

CTV has a little more information about the Chief: Continue reading Chief Clarence Papequash Multitasks Wrong

Family Foundation School Responds

The latest, from Kenny at the FFS TRUTH Campaign:
The Family Foundation School TRUTH Campaign has obtained a copy of the Family Foundation School’s response to the State investigation that we published on our website yesterday.
See for yourself why The Family Foundation School has a declined enrollment by over 50% during the past two years and it continues to decline.  The Family Foundation School continues to deny any allegation or conclusion of anything that has to do with their lies, manipulation, and abuse.  They even openly stated that the State shouldn’t expect FFS to comply with all their recommendations because FFS doesn’t have to listen.

Remember, in their own words, they are a “boarding school” and not a “residential treatment center”
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AA and The Treatment Industry

I’ve been seeing reviews of The Starfish and the Spider: The Unstoppable Power of Leaderless Organizations around lately, because the Tea Party is using this book, and specifically, the Starfish model, as its organizing principle. The quote that keeps popping up is this:

The title is based on the contrasting biology of spiders, which die when their heads are chopped off, and starfish, which can multiply when any given part is severed — a trait the book’s authors posit is shared by decentralized entities ranging from Alcoholics Anonymous to Al Qaeda to Wikipedia. — Politico


It’s always fascinated me how easy it is to find analogies in nature, for just about any phenomenon. The rhizome and the taproot work well here, too. And I’ve always likened Alcoholics Anonymous to a multi-level marketing outfit, which seem to me to spread like rhizomes. Also, I can definitely see Brendan Koerner’s analogy to an open source program, though it might be more accurate to compare it to a computer virus. I don’t think he could have actually said that, though. AA has it built into its structure to develop both symbiotic and parasitic relationships with outside entities, insinuating itself into every facet of public life in such a way as to maintain its integrity (and by “integrity,” I’m talking mechanics, not character). See, for instance, Bill Wilson’s own vision. Here, he is discussing the reason why AA needs to be receptive to outside agencies, and it is mostly because “most of the work and the money will have to come from elsewhere.”

More than anything, the answer to the problem of alcoholism seems to be in education – education in schoolrooms, in medical colleges, among clergymen and employers, in families, and in the public at large. From cradle to grave, the drunk and the potential alcoholic will have to be completely surrounded by a true and deep understanding and by a continuous barrage of information: the facts about his illness, its symptoms, its grim seriousness.


Now who is going to do all this education? Obviously, it is both a community job and a job for specialists. Individually, we A.A.’s can help, but A.A. as such cannot, and should not, get directly into this field. Therefore, we must rely on other agencies, on outside friends and their willingness to supply great amounts of money and effort – money and effort which will steer the alcoholic toward treatment as never before. – Bill W. “Let’s Be Friendly with Our Friends: Friends on the Alcoholism FrontContinue reading AA and The Treatment Industry

Observations on “No Big Deal”

Big Deal, Real Deal, Book Deal

by English Rose

Thank you, friendthegirl, for giving me the opportunity to post this on Stinkin’ Thinkin’. [Thank you, English Rose!]

I don’t really know where to start with this one. This person has spent the last 18 years making a living out of 12-step quackery. He is a director of a 12-step rehab centre in the UK and has written a book called No Big Deal promoting AA and the 12-step programme. And now he has unashamedly come out with this (posted on Amazon): Continue reading Observations on “No Big Deal”