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Dr. Drew Pinsky’s Authoritarian Approach to Charlie Sheen

I don’t normally go after people but Dr. Drew Pinsky is saying things that are so offensive and destructive that I am making an exception.

In the name of love and all the people who have been misled, mislabeled and mistreated by the disabling beliefs of the addiction-recovery-treatment industry–I’m calling names. And right now I’m calling out some of my least favorite company, Dr. Drew Pinsky and kind.

In a recent video with, Dr. Drew Pinsky discusses Charlie Sheen (sprinkled with condescending head nods and ending in smug amusement because the fate of someone’s life is such a funny subject): “Whether it’s drug induced or drug withdrawal or whether he has bipolar disorder, I don’t know but right now he’s manic. That’s an acute psychiatric emergency. Bipolar patients that are manic are more likely to kill themselves or hurt themselves than when they’re depressed. So this is somebody who should be in the hospital.”

Note that Dr. Drew Pinsky is calling for the involuntary medical incarceration of someone who has not violated the law. If he wasn’t using medical terms to threaten someone’s liberty and to dehumanize them by refusing to respond to what they are saying, we would call this “libel.” But what is going on here is worse than slander because this kind of insensitive, uncaring, profit-oriented, social-control oriented behavior is destroying people’s lives.

Read the whole thing…

Chronic Ethical Relapse: Dr. Drew Pinksy

Is Dr. Drew More Like Charlie Sheen Than He Thinks?

by Maia Szalavitz

Could Dr. Drew Pinsky be following Charlie Sheen off the rails? Recently the “Celebrity Rehab” host claimed that Sheen was “in an acute manic state” — a public statement which teeters on the bounds of psychiatric ethics (more on that after the jump). Moreover, Pinsky — contradicting his own previous statements about 12-step programs being critical to recovery — told TMZ that Sheen, who denounces 12-step, “has got a point” and that “their success rates aren’t that great … but it DOES work when people do it.”

Dr. Drew’s assessment of Sheen may well violate a principle of the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) ethical standards known as the Barry Goldwater rule, which was adopted after psychiatrists diagnosed the presidential candidate in a magazine article as “paranoid” and “narcissistic” and questioned his mental fitness for office — without ever examining him in person.

Quote of The Day

Welcome, Still Kickin. We have been reserving the “Quote of the Day” for the fascist AA  nutjobs, but I am reposting your comment here as a QOTD because I believe that when you say your piece here, you are speaking for many, which is more important. I hope you stick around. — ftg

Hi to all and sundry,

I spent 25 years recovering and relapsing, nobody’s fault but a result of my own choices,attended both AA and NA, got thoroughly indoctrinated as we do, and now simply suffer shame and regret for my dogmatic rants that may or may not have impacted on others.
After being threatened with harm of a terminal nature by some of the more criminally inclined I decided, in the interests of self preservation, to abandon meetings and members regardless of the outcome telling myself anything has got to be better than this.
I guess the only thing that truly saddens me is that a sponsor I had for many years and who I considered a real friend has completely abandoned me and although I have tried to contact him has studiously ignored me,
I surmise this is true of many cultist organizations, “Play by our rules or we aint playing”
All things considered, I still think Fellowship played a big part in assisting me to reclaim my life, which I have to say is now the kind of life I always wanted for myself,same job for a decade, same friends for the same period,a realization that my Higher Self is my greatest asset, and freedom from dogma is true freedom,
Wishing you all the Same

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My Short AA Experience

My Short AA Experience

by Samuel Ross 

I’m twenty-five years old and I have been an alcoholic and a drug addict for about five years.  I say I have been rather than I am because I do not believe these addictions are a disease that anyone must live with for the entirety of their life, regardless of what Alcoholics Anonymous indoctrinates its followers with.  When I felt I had hit bottom about five weeks ago my initial plan of action for my recovery was to join the local AA group.  I did this with the most positive and open-minded intentions I could have had.

I made it very clear at the first meeting I attended that I was an agnostic would not do the God thing and I was told by other members not to worry about it and that the God thing is not necessary.  All that was required was that I had a desire to stop drinking.  I continued to attend twice a week, which is the amount of meetings held in this town each week, for about one month.  I was told by other members that my progress was going great and that I was doing the right things in my life.  I just felt I was living my life without my addictions and I was happy because I was doing more productive things and feeling great.  I was enjoying learning a new way of living my life. Continue reading My Short AA Experience

Why I Quit AA

AnnaZed forwards along this post, from theglasscharacter on Open Salon. Very well worth the read (and don’t forget to check out the comments.) Thanks for the tip, AZ.