AA Responds to Predation in the Rooms

Originally Posted July 31, 2011

In 2010, Paul E. Clearly, Trustee of the General Service Board of AA, Inc. submitted a report about child sexual abuse in AA to the GSB’s Subcommittee on Vulnerable Members in AA (I know!). He detailed several shocking instances of predation and implored the GSB to take responsibility for the safety of AA’s most vulnerable members. He concludes:

For a host of moral, ethical, and legal reasons, it’s time for the General Service Board to provide leadership in addressing the issue of child sexual abuse in AA.

Read Paul Cleary’s very revealing 7-page report, “Predators in AA,” and don’t miss the GSB’s predictably despicable abdication of responsibility on the last page. There is some reference to GSB’s response around the web, for instance here,  here and here, but I could find only one  reference to Cleary’s original report (which I was unable to download as a pdf, but could view in google docs) [No longer available].


  • I am sure this is one leaked memo AA wishes never got out. But it was great that it did as it exposes AA how they turn their back on the same members they profess to serve and care about. All they care about is bringing in money.

    http://www.nadaytona.org Violent Criminals in AA and NA

  • Clarabelle12

    I doubt it. AA doesn’t have dominion over its members. SMART makes a point of specifically distancing itself from behavior away from its rooms.

  • Ray Black

    I remember attending A.A. in Vancouver, Wa. and hearing about 10% or 20% of the time some guy saying, they didn’t join A.A. to quit smoking, or gambling, or having sex, etc.. But I never heard one say they didn’t join to quit being a ChoMo. Because they would have been jumped in the parking lot. So the problem is to Make being a Chomo and/or even a 13th stepper an offense and against the bylaws and/or make it the new real 13th step. Came to realize that preying upon newcomers of all ages was repudiation of all preceeding 12 steps.

  • Anon

    AA is not for profit and has only ONE primary purpose.

  • Jasper Brenner

    Because… predation doesn’t happen outside of AA?

  • Thomas

    I was brainwashed by an old man named “Dave” from Freedom Fellowship over a seven year period beginning around 2010. His spirit attacked me at my mom’s house and possessed my body. The possession caused massive spiritual damage to my “Hollywood Dream Spirit”. Dave’s objective was to acquire my Hollywood Dream Spirit for himself. He wanted to steal my video post production from me. He looked through my eyes during the possession. He wanted to see my Hollywood Dream Spirit. He possessed my liberal spirit and tried to steal it for himself. The possession caused physical pain, extreme mental turmoil, and hallucinations. Freedom Fellowship is involved with spiritual occultism. Dave did not care for me at all. Dave did not care for my mom at all. He was jealous of my spirit and wanted it for himself. I tried to make peace with Dave many times but Dave was not interested in making peace. I received “prayers of deliverance” from a Catholic priest(exorcist) in order to rid my body of Dave’s spirit. Conservatives stuck spirits through my body. They covered me up with conservative spirits in order to destroy my liberal spirit. They tortured me. They tried to prevent me from going to Hollywood to pursue my video editing. I tried to make peace with conservatives many times in order to restore a sense of normalcy to everyone. They did not care. Freedom Fellowship ruined my spiritual appearance(the way my spirit looks). I had a nice spiritual appearance before attending meetings at Freedom Fellowship. My Hollywood Dream Spirit was an artistic spirit meant to make films and music. They attacked me in Northern California. I complained to Freedom Fellowship in writing three times. The attacks continued. Dave tried to put his spirit into my mom’s head. I saw this happen. My mom fought Dave off using her Christianity. Dave tried to buy my Christian spirit from me with money. Dave attacks my spirit every morning which causes mental trauma and physical pain. I have been in a possessed state for several years. Dave tried to switch spirits with me. I did my best to refuse. Conservatives in AA are not above the laws in Christianity. They have to obey biblical rules of love and respect. Conservative spirits attacked my family. They ruined the close relationship I had with my mom. The center of my head which used to be nice became a “center stupid asshole.” Spirits destroyed my head. They should be judged by God for what they have done. Conservative spirits need to depart in the name of Jesus Christ. They have no business with me. I used to be a very nice person. Spirits have ruined my good name. I will move to Hollywood to pursue my filmmaking and music. The guilty people involved need to leave me alone. I have to repair my Hollywood Dream Spirit which will take many years. Conservative spirits are not allowing my liberalism to stand. This is illegal, immoral, and wrong. The satanic old man, Dave, is holding on to my spirit.

    Spiritual Observations:
    satanic old man hand and arm holding on to my spirit.
    pink spirit trying to go inside of my mom’s head.
    dumb old man saying “I have to be real careful” on my mom’s driveway.
    sickening spirit pushing itself into my mouth and neck.
    sickening little booties.
    pink spirit saying “I guess I am bothering him.
    pink moron saying “I am a moron. I am a moron.”
    lurking evil in my mom’s bathroom.
    stupid pink spirit “feeling good” in my mom’s bathroom.
    dumb old man saying “I am taking your spirit from you, and there’s nothing you can do about it.”
    evil spirit saying “give to me. give to me.”
    dumb old man saying “evil people do evil things.”
    evil spirit pushing into my neck.
    pink moron pushing against my face.
    crooked politician in my mom’s bathroom.
    evil spirit pushing into my eyes.
    conservatives saying “we will not allow your spirit to stand.”
    AA room approaching my mom’s house.
    conservatives showing me “guns, planes, and bombs.”
    Dave trying to buy my Christianity from me.
    satanic voice talking around me.
    Dele’s atheist spirit pushing down on my Christianity.
    Steve Jobs’ spirit saying “lose your Christianity.
    Dan Ackerman’s spirit in my mom’s bathroom saying “I don’t care anymore!”
    Jesus Christ saying “you are just a pansy!”

    I was also attacked by atheist spirits that did not like my Christianity. I did my best to explain to them that I liked my Christianity. People involved showed no caring for me or my mom. They only cared about my Hollywood Dream Spirit. This is wrong. They only cared for themselves. Liberals did not care for my Christianity. This is unfair, because I had a Liberal-Christian spirit. They helped to ruin my relationship with Jesus Christ. I trusted Jesus Christ before the attacks happened. I thought that he was the authority. Many spirits are guilty regarding my Hollywood Dream. I am also guilty of “Brave New World.” That project messed up my Hollywood Dream and my Christianity which were very nice. The spiritual attacks have turned me into a negative person. I used to be positive, enthusiastic, and motivated. I also smoke many cigarettes now. I did not do that before. Liberals told me that I have to look at pornography. This is not what I want to do.

    I am hoping for a happy ending to this madness where all parties return to their own place. Then we can all move on with our lives. I will try to forgive everyone involved, but they have to accept forgiveness. If they don’t, they will be guilty.

    I am making these notes in order to document what happened to me over the last few years. If the spiritual attacks continue, I will be forced to make a film about the possession. If my Hollywood Dream Spirit is not restored, I will make a film about what happened. I will never attend AA meeting again. They demoralized me.

    The Spirit that is attacking me is breaking my spiritual standup. It is trying to stop me from rising up on my spirit. It is trying to hold me down. I hope that Jesus Christ will send an army of angels to evict this spirit from my body during the prayer of Deliverance.


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