13th Stepping at Cornerstone Recovery in Houston

Here is a story about 13th-stepping by a counselor at Cornerstone Recovery in Houston, TX:

Counselor accused of having sex with teen patient

HOUSTON (KTRK) — A substance abuse counselor is accused of having sex with one of her patients — a 16-year-old boy — and police say it happened more than once.

According to police, the counselor and her patient had attended an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting on a July night after which they went ‘parking.’ When police arrived, the whole alleged relationship began to unravel.Until Tuesday, Amanda Leann Kueht was a drug and alcohol recovery counselor. Now she’s a defendant, arrested Tuesday night by West University Place police. Now Kueht, 28, is charged with sexual assault of a child under 17.

“Had inappropriate contact with a victim that is underage,” said prosecutor Amanda Skillen.

On July 27 in a church parking lot, a West U. patrol officer is said to have spotted a car. It didn’t seem right and then he observed a partially dressed male teenager and Keuht in the back seat.

“The female subject in the back seat was 28 years of age and the male subject in the back seat — our victim — was 16 years of age,” said Patrick Phil Clark of the West U. Place Police Department.

The couple’s clothes were disheveled. Later, the teen told investigators while no sex took place that night, it had before.

“It had been going on for a few weeks with numerous encounters,” said Clark.

Her name has been taken off of the Cornerstone website, where until now she was listed as a managing counselor. It said this about her:

“She is completely dedicated to helping adolescents and their families recover. Mandy takes pride in being organized and dependable. Over time it has become apparent that she has a passion and enthusiasm for the 12 steps and helping others, as well as her own spiritual and mental growth.”

A true angel of mercy!

  • Interesting blog note made on the Cornerstone Recovery Website 2 days after the arrest of Amanda Leann Kueht in the parking lot of a church with a teenager in the back seat of her car:

    The Woodlands group is moving!
    * By: Laura B.
    * On: 07/29/2011 11:46:09
    * In: News
    * Comments: 0
    Who: Parents AND Kids
    What: Cornerstone weekly meetings for The Woodlands Area
    When: 7:30 PM Thursday, August 4, 2011 (Note the day of week change)
    Where: StoneBridge Church
    One Stonebridge Church Drive
    The Woodlands, TX
    http://www.gostonebridge.com
    Parents meet in The Lodge (main building)
    Kids meet in The Bridge (youth building)

    Children are not safe in AA/NA. If you can’t trust a well respected paid councilor like Amanda Leann Kueht with your teen in a church parking lot, parents should not trust an Anonymous Sponsor with a hidden background that they can’t find out about or do a background check on.

  • link to above information: http://www.cornerstonerecovery.org/news/

  • THough I obviously think this stuff happens more in terms of men preying upon women, this idea outrages me. I have a 12-y-o boy. I would *kill* her. Sick bitch.

  • MikeAugustine

    A passion for 12 steps and 16 year olds. There’s plenty of meetings in prison. Not sure she’ll have much luck being in control there though

  • Ben Franklin

    She was helping him with his sexual inventory.

  • Hopefully the State of Texas will bring Amanda Leann Kueht to a quick trial and jail sentence, unlike the Florida case of the school teacher Debra Lafave who molested a 14 year old boy when she was 23 multiple times. Both professionals had a responsibility to the parents of these children and they it was ignored. Lafave got off because they didn’t want to put the both through the trial, hopefully they won’t give Kueht a break because she is a Rehab Councilor. Expect many AA and NA members to stand up for Amanda in court and plead for mercy. Parents should realize that these same people that may stand up for Kueht are the same AA and NA members who would probably not come forward if they were aware that this sexual abuse was happening.

    Hopefully we won’t see a smile from Amanda Leann Kueht like this one from Debra Lafave when she got away with sexual assault for a second time:

    http://www.sptimes.com/2006/03/21/Hillsborough/Charges_dropped_again.shtml

    Churchs and Church members in Texas should be outraged at what was happening in their parking lots after AA and NA meetings and should take actions to prevent it from happening again.

  • mikeblamedenial

    Stuff like this happens all the time, all over the country. Sorry to keep pushing our videos, but this one was done awhile ago and is based upon counselors I have known personally.

  • SoberPJ

    I am soooo pissed. I didn’t meet a single counselor that had that much compassion, love, empathy and service in my entire time in AA.

  • Sally

    I have two sons and I agree with Violet. “I would *kill* her. Sick bitch.”

  • You have to remember that practically all AA members adore Bill Wilson and want to emulate him and his Spiritual Awakening in everything they do. This is the same Bill Wilson that was not working a real job and had a 22 year younger girlfriend named Helen Wynn that he visited as often as he could while his wife Lois Wilson lived at Stepping Stones in Bedford Hills New York that he talked a widow into practically giving him because her husband died because he couldn’t follow his simple program. Practically worshiping and studying the life of a man like this could have a bearing on why male and female AA members molest younger “prospects.” Of course we only find out about the ones that are caught because the veil of Anonymity that corporate AA protects so dearly fails to protect these sexual predators sometimes.

  • Quigley

    I believe in innocent until proven guilty. We are talking about a recovering drug addict/teenage boy. The men out there know how teen boys talk about sexual conquest that never really happened. Alot of these kids have dual diagnosis with underlying mental health issues. My daughter was in a recovery program and was not always the most honest person the first couple years. She has had almost 5 years of sobriety on these program saved her life. If this is true then she should be punished but I don’t believe you should crucify her before she is proven guilty.

  • Your probably right, many 28 year old female addiction councilors jump in the back seat of a car with 16 year old boys in a church parking lot and the police catch them. Its a good thing the police were there, with the cloak of Anonymity that AA practices in Churches basements all over the world other AA members would have probably just ignored it and it would still be going on today.

  • SoberPJ

    Yep, people just makin shit up again –

    ” On July 27 in a church parking lot, a West U. patrol officer is said to have spotted a car. It didn’t seem right and then he observed a partially dressed male teenager and Keuht in the back seat.

    “The female subject in the back seat was 28 years of age and the male subject in the back seat — our victim — was 16 years of age,” said Patrick Phil Clark of the West U. Place Police Department.

    The couple’s clothes were disheveled. Later, the teen told investigators while no sex took place that night, it had before.

    “It had been going on for a few weeks with numerous encounters,” said Clark. ”

    Oh that’s right. It’s that new form of 12 Step work and it requires getting caught in the back seat with a minor in a parking lot and she was playing “doctor”. Seems straight forward to me, let’s not crucify her until …. NOW !

  • Yeah, you have to remember he’s “a recovering drug addict/teenage boy” and he probably just made the whole thing up. The police officer that spotted them, the dispatcher that took the call, the jail cell she ended up in and the church parking lot she was found in with a partially disheveled clothed teenage boy in the back seat with her.

  • SoberPJ

    Also, I think she is in BIG trouble. And it will affect the rest of her life in substantial ways, convicted or not. Texas is real serious about sexual assault. A little sex with a youngin is a dangerous game to play and as a counselor, she should have known exactly how dangerous. Wanna bet she’s a two hatter?

  • Sally

    Quigley,

    Amanda Leann Kueht admitted to having sex with the boy.

    “Kueht said she had been having sex with the boy for about two weeks.”
    http://instantnewswestu.com/2011/08/11/21630/

  • MikeAugustine

    In this case it was the AA member doing push-ups in the parking lot.

  • Quigley,

    Addicts and alcoholics are vulnerable, which also means that they are vulnerable to rape and abuse. The people who victimize these vulnerable people are often given the benefit of the doubt over their victims who are considered lowlifes and liars. If, by chance, these predators are brought to trial, their cases are often dismissed because addicts and alcoholics are not reliable witnesses. They are either considered not credible because they are addicts or because they were high when they were assaulted.

    The statistics are that only 8% of rape allegations are “unfounded” (which is not the same thing as deliberately false charges, but encompasses those rape charges as well).

    Assuming someone’s innocent until they’re proven guilty is definitely wise. But assuming this woman is innocent based on assumptions about the lowdown character of the victim is a real display of cognitive dissonance. You’re reminding us not to assume guilt while calling this kid’s character into question.

  • Wow – Sally, that article adds quite a bit to this story. The molestation of a teenage 16 year old boy happened in the parking lot of West University Church of Christ at 3407 Bissonnet St, Houston, TX 77005 on July 25,2011. The Church is extremely active with youth and is planning a “Youth Group Back to School Bash @ Fiesta Texas on
    Fri, August 19, 2011.

    I have to wonder if they are active in the Young People Group (YPG) In AA activities that are being planned all over the US in the next few weeks.

  • Oh…. I forgot the important part Amanda Leann Kueht is MARRIED.

  • causeandeffect

    I wonder how many other young boys she has “counseled” in this way. Purely. Disgusting.

  • Quidgley – you sound like a brainwashed bafoon from AA yourself. Get off our blog and stop defending a sexual predator. WE don have to take your bullshit here!!!

    Your words are ridiculous!

  • Sally

    c&e, and will the other boys (if there are any) come forward now?

    Well, maybe not if they read Quigs post.

  • SoberPJ

    Hey, Bill Wilson got away with it. why shouldn’t she? I mean, he set the example, she was just being a good follower of the BW faith. Maybe she put him in an AA trance. ” You are powerless over my sexual advances, booga, booga, booga …” It was probably much simpler than that however, ” Want some sex therapy? It’s how we stay sober, Bill Wilson did it this way. Get in the back seat.”

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  • Mona Lisa

    It does not MATTER what that child’s character is. He is a CHILD. She is an adult, and moreover she is licensed by the state of Texas as a chemical dependency counselor

    https://vo.dshs.state.tx.us/datamart/detailsTXRAS.do?anchor=34aae25.0.0

    which presumably imposes upon her an ethical obligation to refrain from having sex with her clients of ANY age, much less a child of 16.

    I certainly agree with not presuming someone guilty, but to defend the accused based on suppositions about the victim’s character, when the victim’s character is IRRELEVANT, is disgusting….and a perfect example of the twisted logic that pervades AA.

  • SoberPJ

    I think her mug shot shows this AA heroine in a little more accurate light than the pic for the thread.

    http://interested-participant.blogspot.com/2011/08/texas-drug-counselor-accused-of-sex.html

  • Mona Lisa

    Oh by the way, it doesn’t look like they “went parking”. This “passionate” stepper was busted in a church parking lot–obviously, right where the meeting had been held. Which means that everyone at the meeting drove away, leaving the predator alone in a parking lot at night with a minor.

    Yep, great idea to leave the protection of vulnerable members up to the individual groups! Thanks GSB.

  • SoberPJ

    In that cloistered little AA world, she was probably admired by many. Local counselor, known to a lot of the people that had gone through their rehab. She probably had ALL the right things to say about higher power, honesty, service and living an AA lifestyle. Just one more Buchmanite that is totally full of shit.

  • I am sure that the West University Church of Christ in Houston and its congregation will be on the lookout for older Spiritual AA members jumping in the back seat with 16 year old’s from now on. I am also quite confident that no other member of AA caught on to anything that was going on and should have reported it. You could probably even ask them, if they weren’t Anonymous and didn’t have the “code of silence” when it comes to the misdeeds of other AA members.

    The West University Place police are going to have a hard time getting any AA member to come forward and tell the truth about this alleged sexual predator in AA. With the AA anonymity that Bill Wilson, the adulterer with a mistress 22 years younger than him named Helen Wynn has surrounded the fellowship with, it is very hard to get AA members to come forward in these cases where older respected members take advantage of younger members.

  • Jonny Quest

    @Quigley:

    Nice try, asshole, but she was caught red-handed with her pants down by a police officer, and she confessed. Let me ask you this, if this were your 16 year old teenage son or daughter, would you say the same thing? Oh, wait, you said your daughter wasn’t honest…

  • Sally

    JR,

    Thanks for pointing out that a link I posted cited the church parking lot where substance abuse counselor Amanda Leann Kueht (28 years old) admitted to having sex with a 16 year old boy.

    The the West University Church of Christ in Houston will be hearing from me.

  • mikeblamedenial

    The institutionalized culture of steppism facilitates such behaviours. Yesterday’s underage abuse victim becomes today’s counselor/addictions expert/caregiver/predator to the next crop of up-and-coming sociopaths. I’ll bet a dollar to a dime this woman experienced her own fair share of abuse on her way to the back seat of that car, with some of it in the rooms at the hands of yesterday’s trusted servants.

  • disclosure

    I have known very few 16 year old boys who would turn her down. Heck, when I was 15, 16 & 17, I was “raped” by a 35 year old woman (thank you miss). Mandy had a distinct advantage over the youth in that he probably did not have the capacity to refuse her. Even now it would cause me grief to refuse an attractive woman such as her. I know this because it happens (sorry, not just in AA), instincts don’t die just because you sign a marriage contract. The biology of the situation has its own clock and protogenetic utility. We have laws to protect the health of society which have a slower calendar. Many times the biological clock runs a bit faster.
    The minimum age to apply for a marriage license in Texas is 14.
    In most of North America the age of consent is 16.
    The righteous witch hunt here is not that they had sex. It is that Mandy violated a sacred trust; all medical treatment facility workers should adhere to the Hippocratic Oath. First do no harm.

  • JCounselorM

    Mikeblamedenial has a point when he says:
    “The institutionalized culture of steppism facilitates such behaviours. Yesterday’s underage abuse victim becomes today’s counselor/addictions expert/caregiver/predator to the next crop of up-and-coming sociopaths. I’ll bet a dollar to a dime this woman experienced her own fair share of abuse on her way to the back seat of that car, with some of it in the rooms at the hands of yesterday’s trusted servants.”
    I have worked for some years as an addictions counselor and mental health professional, in a variety of settings and agencies. There are some generalizations I can easily make from my observations and from what I know about the industry.
    An extremely high percentage of counselors in the addictions industry are “in recovery” (i.e. products of AA/NA and step work), “in recovery” being a euphemism we use because we are not comfortable describing these individuals more accurately as still addicted (generally to tobacco or food) and behaviorally disordered (because, often with the encouragement of AA/NA, they have avoided work on the underlying mental health issues that drives their addiction in the first place). Agencies often preferentially hire these individuals because the managers themselves are products of AA, and under the absurd myth that someone from a background of addiction somehow is better qualified to serve in the counseling field (just as, presumably, it would be difficult to be good mental health therapist if one has no history of psychotic disorder or borderline personality disorder).
    Part of what drives AA/NA acolytes into the addictions counseling field is the classic defense mechanism of reaction formation – “Check it out, I’m the COUNSELOR here, obviously I have my shit together”. I remember well one of the more disordered, angry, punishing, incompetent counselors I have known seething at a client, “Because you’re sick and I’m the counselor, that’s why!” (neatly combining defense mechanisms of projection and reaction formation in one exclamation). More practically, clients in 12-Step based treatment programs easily become aware that the treatment industry functions as an entitlement system and that without needing much, if anything, for education or skills, having a history of addiction and 12-Step/AA indoctrination is essentially a free ticket to a counselor position. It doesn’t help that the money isn’t there to hire and pay individuals with real education and training in counseling fields.
    So we end up with a treatment industry populated with individuals who are disordered – dishonest, projecting, punishing, abusive of clients, incompetent, closed to new thinking and ideas, unmotivated, and with dismal work ethic and sense of entitlement. I’m not saying there are not exceptions, but of the many I’ve known and worked with, I can’t think of any I would hire or trust to work with clients, and most provided grounds for what should have been termination.
    One agency I was with had just spent big bucks to institute a curriculum of evidence-based practice (CBT, MET and community reinforcement), with all staff receiving extensive training. The program failed because the “recovering” staff was simply incapable and/or unwilling to change and implement the laid-out curriculum, instead continuing to run treatment groups like informal AA meetings, or plugging clients into a movie.
    In essence, the 12-Step subculture (and its symbiosis with the medical community) has a lock on the treatment industry, and this system can only perpetuate what is at best a monumental waste of resources and at worst continued harm to vulnerable individuals who desperately need help in their struggles with addiction.

  • SoberPJ

    Thank you JCounselorM.. that was very informative and well written.

  • DeConstructor

    This story will probably be circulated around the AA rooms as a recruiting tool for young males.

    Hopefully this woman will never work as a counselor again. Perhaps she can find employment as a fluffer or bukakke hostess.

  • christopher

    This reminds me of a 45 year old married PhD psychologist who was an addiction counselor and active AA member who attended meetings with his 35 year old wife during the several years that I was also an active AA member. He also, to the silent consternation of many, “sponsored’ AND professionally counseled for addiction two 20+ women who were best friends. Most people just gave him a “he wouldn’t dare do such a thing right under his wife’s nose” pass.

    Where I came in: I fell in love with one of those 25 year old women and asked her to marry me with the proviso that she cut off all relations with this cad. She did, but it also cost her her relationship with her best friend. Also did not win me any friends in the small town where this happened. Long story short: several years later my wife’s best friend filed charges and the bastard did jail time. Fortunately, everyone stayed sober, but this kind of incident leaves lifetime scars on all involved.

  • causeandeffect

    Thank you JCouselorM for your insightful post. I agree with everything and would only add that for alcoholics who really don’t know who they are without alcohol to be told that they are all liars, cheats and thieves creates a special kind of neurosis that may not have even pre-existing as we have had people attest to on this site. The result is that they tend to live down to this stereotype. Add to that the AA taboo of having anger and resentment with no realistic way of dealing with such emotions and you have a real cocktail for crAAzy.

    For all their claims of great progress and how wonderful the program is etc, when they share it’s easy to see that they are being kept in a very mentally unstable condition. And these people are counseling others who may have no clue who they really are and may have come from a background of abuse, so the abuse and sickness just appears normal to them. And on and on it goes for generation after generation, passing the mentAAl ilness down the line. It’s so sad really. There’s no hope in it anywhere.

  • Pennwise

  • Mona Lisa

    @christopher: You say your wife’s best friend filed charges against the guy and that he did jail time. For what? What did he do?

  • christopher

    @mona lisa

    Sexual assault.

  • Mona Lisa

    @christopher: That is what I figured. You are right, this sort of incident leaves scars.

  • Sally

    Response to my letter to the West University Church of Christ in Houston where this incident occurred:

    “Thank you for your letter and your concerns. We at the church regret that the incident occurred on our parking lot. We absolutely had nothing to do with the incident. We do not know the persons involved. We have lights on our parking lot. After hours, none of us are present to prevent such unfortunate occurrences.
    I invite you to attend church with us. You will find a loving congregaton that appreciates newcomers and guests. God bless you.
    Calvin Warpula, Minister”

  • SoberPJ

    Deny, rationalize, then recruit … great format.

    I wonder if churches that hold AA meetings realize they have zero idea of who is in their basement.

  • disclosure

    The church here knows, their rep is there to listen to speakers every Friday night. Churches are hurting for money so anything goes.

  • Sally

    They know now.

  • Mona Lisa

    If I recall correctly, the Midtown Group ended up having to get out of Dodge because the churches kicked them out of their basements.

  • Mona Lisa- I have been in contact with a member who recently left AA in Miami. He said that they are migrating down to Miami and made a huge meeting of 100 Young people. Its was a tiny nice small meeting. Now filled with culty leaders flying speakers down from DC. WTF is that about. Its real. It scared him. And he left AA. I met him in person this week.

  • SoberPJ

    Right, what self-respecting church wants a sexploitation ring being run out of their basement ? Wow, is that a loaded question, or what?

  • Christopher-Long story short: several years later my wife’s best friend filed charges and the bastard did jail time. Fortunately, everyone stayed sober, but this kind of incident leaves lifetime scars on all involved.

    Can you contact me please at makeaasafer@gmail.com I left AA but I am working on something to make things safer. Thanks for the post!

  • Mona Lisa

    Massive, yes, it does seem like Midtown has relocated, much like the sexual predator does when he’s exposed at one group and heads across town to another, where he isn’t recognized.

    So they’re actually flying speakers down from DC, eh? That is scary….the bastards are spreading like a virus.

  • For a listing of some of the Churches that Midtown was banned from and warned about please refer to the following Posted by: soberinDC | July 29, 2007 9:33 AM in the Washington Post, it is about a third of the way down the page.

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2007/07/midtown_group_aa_group_leads_m.html

    The perpetrators of sexual crimes in AA can no longer hide behind the veil of Anonymity built by the profit driven book sales of an unemployable adulterer like Bill Wilson and protected by the Alcoholics Anonymous General Service Organization (AAGSO) corporate guidance in New York.

  • JCounselorM

    causeandeffect:
    Agreed, apart from not picking up and using, AA is not about cognitive, emotional and behavioral change, and with its focus on pathology, defects, and powerlessness likely reinforces problems of low sense of self, anger and interpersonal functioning. I guess slogans, story telling and inventories just aren’t substitutes for effective therapy and change. The very concepts of alcoholic identity and lifelong disease run against the idea of change, so you have to “keep coming back”.
    I love the part in the film “Rachel Getting Married” where the family scapegoat Kym (Anne Hathaway) is at an AA or NA meeting and alludes to her history of family tragedy and dysfunction, clearly expressing and exposing a need and doorway to what is emotionally tormenting her and potentially the key to her emotional and substance abuse recovery. Kym provides an opening for what could and should have been the start of critical work on her issues in some kind of real therapeutic setting, and what follows in the meeting is an ackward pause, then the standard “thanks for sharing” from other AAs, and it all drops, with no encouragment to get real help for her underlying issues. She leaves to act out her distress with an impulsive hook-up, ineffective family conflicts, her admission that she is “still waiting for the change” promised by step work and amends, and high-risk behavior. To me it represents another way that AA/NA, viewed as a substitute or even legitimate alternative to real therapy, is such a huge barrier to real change.

  • MikeAugustine

    @spj, yet another catholic priest out my way has just been arrested on sexual assault charges, if that answers your question.

  • causeandeffect

    Thank you JCM. I hope to hear more from you in the future.

    I found that, since I had many years of normal drinking, probably less than most “normies” and only started drinking heavily, regularly and destructively after some tragic events, I was unable to find myself in that stereotype. While sincerely trying to find out how that fit me but was unable, I labeled myself as being in denial. Was quite paralyzed by the whole concept and was unable to move forward in life while I was thinking I was some kind of scumbag that I would have no respect for in someone else. It wasn’t until I deprogrammed that I was finally able to accomplish a few goals. Its very toxic.

  • AnonymousKWD

    I was in cornerstone several years ago and Amanda was one of my counselors. She did a great job and helped me get through a lot of struggles and life issues. I don’t agree what-so-ever with what she did, but when one isnt working a program, we do some pretty messed up stuff. My sponsor told me its untreated alcoholism due to the fact that she was most likely not working on her program and herself. As a result, you pretty much act the same while you’re drinking/drugging but without the chemicals. I never thought this would have happened and it’s very disappointing and heart breaking, but harassing her and “crucifying” her isn’t the way to go about it. She’s never done this before and I know she’s not a child molester, she just made some horrible decisions and fell into her character defects. Addicts and alcoholics are very sick people. I’m not making an excuse for what she did, I’m only saying this is most likely the cause of why she did it. I got sober in the Cornerstone group and I’m still sober today. I’ll have six years in a couple of months and I’ll be forever in debt to the group. That’s my two cents. Most of you don’t know her personally but I know she’s not a monster, she’s very passionate and loving about helping others, she just messed up really really bad.

  • SoberPJ

    Oh pleeeze .. I can buy that she is an ok person that messed up, but you can keep the sponsor bullshit on “untreated alcoholism” . She was horny dipshit and had an opportunity and took it. AND, you have no idea how many times she took care of her itch and with who. Nice try …

  • Sue

    Anonymous,
    Good thing that counselor was working a “good program” when she guided you through the steps.

  • ANonyKWD-@ My sponsor told me its untreated alcoholism due to the fact that she was most likely not working on her program and herself.

    Your sponsor doesn’t know shit. Who is she to act like God. You’re turning your will & life over to her? Run like the wind…
    And why are you defending a fucking predator? Really. We know a duck when it walks like a duck.
    @she just made some horrible decisions and fell into her character defects.

    Character defects ? Are you kidding me. Do you really believe that? You have been drinking the Koolaid for far too long. How old are you 24? Addicts and alcoholics are very sick people.

    No! We are not really sick people. That is a BIG lie. But that is what AA and your sponsor want you to believe so that you can all live in fear the rest of your lives. Why do you need to go to meetings for the rest of your life. Bill W did not get better. AFter 18 years sober he was severely depressed and was taking LSD to find a spiritual awakening. He was a sexual predator himself.

    If you don’t know it…I am going to tell you. You are in a cult. I was in AA from 18 till 4 months ago. Im 54 now. That’s 36 Fucking stupid years. Holy Shit! They took so many years of my young life. Those fucking idiots. I was so proud of my stupid fucking years! WEll Im not anymore .I feel free and I don’t have that rat brain bullshit in my head anymore cause I don’t have to listen Chapter 5 anymore.

    I am FREE! http://www.stop13stepinaa.wordpress.com

  • Soberpj- right on!

  • Sally- great job with the letter!
    Mona Lisa Yes he confirmed they are flying people down to Miami and its the Midtown group moved it’s but to Miami YP Meeting now grown to 100 pp.

  • Sally

    “My sponsor told me” Haha!

  • MikeAugustine

    She’s never done this before and I know she’s not a child molester, she just made some horrible decisions and fell into her character defects.

    Er, did you mean to say she never got caught before…?

  • Rick

    @AnonymousKWD wrote, “I’m not making an excuse for what she did, I’m only saying this is most likely the cause of why she did it.”

    You are using the same excuses the defense will likely use if this goes to trial:
    “My sponsor told me its untreated alcoholism due to the fact that she was most likely not working on her program and herself.”
    “…she just made some horrible decisions and fell into her character defects. Addicts and alcoholics are very sick people.”

    Perhaps you and your sponsor could write letters to the judge. I imagine her lawyers will play the AA card for all it’s worth. Maybe her lawyer will be in AA and maybe they can even get some sympathetic “anonymous” AA members on the jury.

  • MA

    I always thought that drinking was the sign someone was an alcoholic, or failed their recovery program. Apparently, pedophilia is another one.

  • Rick

    I know it doesn’t apply in this case, but it’s no wonder so many “normies” become instant alcoholics when they get caught doing stupid shit. I don’t blame the lawyers for taking advantage of a list of ready-made excuses and an army of anonymous sympathizers.

  • MA

    Rick – I don’t blame the lawyers, either. My best friend is a criminal defense attorney there in Texas, and he uses it often. It’s his job, and it’s exactly what I would do as an attorney there. What I wish is, it was not option for them.

  • AnnaZed

    AnonymousKWD says “… blah, blah, blah … the disease of alcoholism …. blah, blah, blah … character defects … blah, blah, blah … not working on her program and herself … blah, blah, blah … I know she’s not a child molester … “

    While all of this post is typical of AA brainwashed slogan spewing bullshit, the last bit is rather astonishing isn’t it, when you see it there in black and white? I know she’s not a child molester is a very interesting conclusion to draw when we are given that she was caught in flagrante delicto with this child … you know … she is in fact a child molester, that’s just a fact.