Randall Marriffic!

In an update on our story about Freedom House in Kalispell, Montana; it seems that on again, off again president, Randall Marr, is back in the pokey – once again for parole violation.

Now, this serenity fun-bunch is, in an effort to put some lipstick on this pig, has taken down their website, and is considering a name change. Of course, the same felons people are still running the show, and the residents are still in the house.

Any suggestions on a new name?

  • Commonsense

    Freedom House could certainly could spruce up its image with some rebranding. How about, "Last Cell on the Block", "McRandall's – Over 1 Billion Warrants Served", or "Felons-R-Us"?

  • Rick045

    Maybe Randall will be sentenced to home incarceration in his own halfway house. I guess there's no way of knowing, but I wouldn't be surprised if that hasn't already happened at some of these places.

  • AndyM

    AA really seems to me to be as much criminal subculture as pseudo-religious cult. This became clear to me even in the UK. Criminal behaviour that wouldn't be tolerated anywhere else was normalised in the rooms. People become gradually desensitised to associating with criminals, sociopaths and low-lifes. I clearly remember the sense of self-disgust when I realised this had happened to me. Obviously the more commonplace court-mandated attendance becomes (as in the USA), the more of a problem this must become, as the "Keep Coming Back" section here shows.

  • Mona Lisa

    You are so right, Andy M. I know that I certainly became desensitized to criminal behavior; it was considered bad form to comment on such things, in fact. It was considered "judgmental" to say something like: "you know, that guy got out of jail last week for rape; I don't think I am going to let him hug me." It's no shock that things go way wrong when that's the attitude.

  • AnnaZed

    Mona Lisa and Andy, what an excellent observation, and so true. Can you believe that I was a member of an organization where it was considered bad form, even rude, to show any awareness of criminal behavior? I can't now, but it just seemed normal then. If I had said to my sponsor or to anyone in AA "well, I've never grifted anything from my employer" or "I've never attacked anyone" or "I've never operated a car while drunk" or "I've never been to jail." I would have been told "not yet you haven't."

  • tintop

    ya think?

  • Mona Lisa

    Yep, we are all the same, because either you are already a criminal, or you'd have been a criminal "but for the grace of God and the program of alcoholics anonymous", or you'll be a criminal if you don't work the program right.

    Like AnnaZed says, the weird thing is that it seems normal when you're there. I'm gone a few years now (a few 24s….. ha ha ha ha ha…..!) and so I can see it for what it is, but then, it was just how it was, and I really didn't think twice about who I was hanging around with. In retrospect it is a miracle that the ONLY thing that happened is that I got 13th stepped and brainwashed.

  • Mona Lisa

    Holy crap! Lookee here…I could have used this back in the day….I was famous for doing stupid shit in the middle of the night….

    http://socialmediasobrietytest.com/index.php

  • SoberPJ

    Cool ML, I could have used one on my phone… "Do you remember calling me last night?"…ahhhh no.

  • tintop

    That socialmedia test sounds useful.

    I did questionable stuff in that period odder than getting drunk: not paying bills; leaving two months of unread daily newsparers on a chair; staying in pajamas for three days; refusing to answer the door or the phone; driving 200 miles at 3 am sober; etc etc. Getting drunk stopped the nightmares.

  • lucy

    @ML That site is hilarious

  • Mona Lisa

    @tintop: Me too, getting drunk was only half the craziness toward the end. God I was a mess.

    I think they should broaden this software so it could be used on phones, too, like PJ says. I was famous for my middle of the night drunk-dials. It would have been nice if my phone had administered a sobriety test before allowing me to place a call.

  • http://www.stinkin-thinkin.com friendthegirl

    I am on my knees thanking HP that my natural introversion (?) is so ingrained that I never called people up when I was hammered.

    I would have attached a breathalizer to my "enter" key in a heartbeat though.

    In fact, I would have also added one to my tweezers, my Harry Nilsson CDs, and the macaroni and cheese.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV-oYe4xLkU&feature=fvw

  • true believer

    What sort of person would condemn the easier softer way?

  • AnnaZed

    Because we are “all the same” you see, all “alcoholics” are the same.

  • tintop

    I was not crazy because I was drunk. The other way round.

    condemn the easier softer way?

    a sadist

  • Believer

    You people shold be ashamed of yourselves. Get a life. You have nothing better to do than trash AA and Freedom House. Relapse is a reality. At least the people that started This clean and sober house for men are attempting to do something constutive for their community. De-constructor and the rest of his cronies need to discontinue their "mean spirited" campaign, grow up and try to make some kind possitive contribution to the universe. Remember "what goes around, comes around.

  • causeandeffect

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

  • Martha

    @ Believer. We have a life. We are no longer alcoholics because we are abstinent. Abstinence is sobriety and we do not need to join a religion such as AA to call ourselves sober. What you call trashing is in reality us telling our truth about our experiences in AA. It is my fondest hope that what we post will keep alcoholics looking for help from ever setting foot in an AA meeting. I am not ashamed of myself at all for diverting 3 people from AA and into real programs to get abstinent (sober.) I am very, very proud of my efforts to undermine AA.

  • http://www.stinkin-thinkin.com friendthegirl

    Believer, you should do some research into the 12-step sober house racket.

  • Commonsense

    @Believer – From the online newspaper reports that I read, I got the impression that the surrounding community residents didn't want Freedom House, its staff, or its inhabitants in their neighborhood and don't view the Freedom House as a constructive contribution to their community. Furthermore, the qualifications of the Freedom House leadership clearly appear questionable based on what has been reported. If the facts surrounding Freedom House and the opinions of its immediate neighbors have been inaccurately reported, please let us know.

  • Johnny Crash NYC

    Martha your still brainwashed there is no such animal as an alcoholic … that would infer powerless and a disease concept …. there are only choices and people who make bad decisions … keep comming back ( hahahahah) as time goes on and one clears up they get to see how deep the mind control goes … now keep it simple … just dont go to meetings … Merry Xmas

  • Martha

    @ Johnny Crash. Your point is well taken. I use the word alcoholic as shorthand for the tendency to use alcohol in a destructive and habitual manner. I too reject the myth of being powerless and I believe that drinking is a choice and not a disease. I believe one of the ways that AA does more harm than good is by telling people they are powerless. That message alone kills people who really do want some help when they come to an AA meeting. If it were a disease it would be irresponsible to tell a patient there is no hope. Imagine a medical doctor telling a patient with a real disease that even before any tests or exams are done that they are powerless and must turn their physical aliment over to a higher power. I think in the future when AA no longer exists except as an isolated, discredited cult Bill Wilson will be viewed in the same light as L. Ron Hubbard or Jim Jones.